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I became President of our Forum in December 2006, my place as Chairman having been ably taken by Jim McFetrich. As part of the Welsh Assembly Government's Strategy for Older People, 'SHOUT the Voice of the Older Community in the County of Bridgend, was formed. The basic State pension continues to be eroded. So, if the larger proportion of the electorate are older people, why are those dependent on basic pension not being treated fairly?

I have concluded that we don't count because we are not organised and therefore lack the influence exerted by other more vociferous sections of society. The Unions have collectively established the minimum wage to safeguard the earnings level of those on the bottom end of the pay scale and have proved that by banding together results will surely follow.

 

Perhaps we need to form a National Union of Older People. In Bridgend, we have been clear from the outset that there was need for a unified older persons forum because whilst we accepted there are many very good older people's organisations in existence, they are fragmented. Now that we have our SHOUT organisation in the County, we believe we are able to enjoy more respect and exert more influence on behalf of our older community than ever before. To illustrate the point, we were all, I am sure, impressed by the National Pensioners Convention (NPC) Charter featured in Forum to Forum, with its admirable aims and objectives. We noted that 1000 Pensioners had lobbied 300 MPs to give their support to the Charter. So why has this campaign failed to gather momentum and thus achieve the desired result? Might I suggest that all older people without exception will agree wholeheartedly with the demands of the Charter. If this is so, then the only reason for it being largely ignored is that we are seen as fragmented and not capable of making our presence felt. Have we now reached the time to become unified?

 

What would have been the result of 10,000 older people lobbying Parliament or 100,000 letters and emails arriving on MPs' desks one bright and sunny morning?

 

Is a National Union of Older People the only way to seriously influence Government and correct the many injustices which exist? We undoubtedly have numbers on our side. Is this the time for the gentle giant to stir?

 

What do other people think?

 

Clive Mort, President, Bridgend County Shout


Woe, woe and thrice woe!

I am an Old Age Pensioner, as the Government call me in their non-stop barrage of 'helpful' but useless leaflets*. I prefer to be called a Senior Citizen. I think that the older generation deserve more respect from the people in power, and the younger generation.

To be called an "Old Age Pensioner" makes you feel old and 'pensioner' makes you feel as if you are sponging off the state. Let's face it, the amount of pension most old people get now is not nearly sufficient to live a decent life with. The Government have admitted now that 50% of "Old Age Pensioners" are living on or below the poverty line. They even give us £200 every year to help pay for the heating in our homes. To me that is admitting they know that OAP's don't get a decent pension. Guilt money.

Let us not forget that it was the Conservatives who removed the link between wages and pensions the last time they were in power. Now they say "If you vote for us next time we will restore the link". Personally I think they are lying; as all politicians do in order to get into government to line their own pockets with gold!

I know I have blogged about this before, but as the cold weather approaches I am reminded of what a struggle it was to keep warm last winter on my small pension. When the weather was really cold I could only afford to heat one room in my house and shut off the bedrooms and one room downstairs until the warmer weather came in the Spring. So I was actually living in a bed-sit in my own house! In the one room I had my bed, video-player, radio, computer, books and food. When I visited the bathroom it was very quick I can assure you! I can stand any amount of heat in the Summer, but I just can't tolerate the cold.

My gas-bill has been increased 3 times this year already, it's 72% higher than this time last year for the same amount of gas! My electricity bill is up by nearly 60%, and the council tax went up by 8%. My "Old Age Pension" went up in April by 1.78%!

But, I hear you say, what about the £200 I get in addition to the standard pension? That, my friends, goes towards paying off my credit card from which I have had to borrow to supplement my pension throughout the year to pay my necessary outgoings.
*The leaflets I get through the door from the 'Ministry of Certain Things' are written by people completely out of touch with the way Senior Citizens live. They contain really useful info like "Keep warm this winter by turning up the heat in your home", "Cook and eat lots of hot food", "Fit double-glazing and loft insulation" (Who the **** is going to give me the money for all that?

Well, the leaflets make funny reading and give me a laugh as I crouch over the two candles in the fireplace, warming my frozen fingers on a bowl of hot gruel and nibbling my bit of dried bread. *cue sad violin music*

Keith

DENTAL CHARGES

I read with interest the information about the new system of NHS dental charges in England and noted that according to that information nobody will pay more than £189 for a course of dental treatment. This begs the question of what constitutes a course of dental treatment. I recently broke a piece off a previously filled tooth and the filling came out leaving a cavity with sharp edges.

I telephoned my usual dental surgery, explained the problem and was extremely pleased when the receptionist to whom I spoke told me that my dentist had a gap that same morning so I was seen very quickly. The dentist told me that the tooth needed crowning, that he would temporarily fill it and X-ray it and that I would need to make two further appointments over the next couple of weeks for impressions to be taken and the crown to be fitted. He explained that an NHS crown cost £189 and told me that there were more expensive crowns available privately. I opted for an NHS crown.

When I left after the initial visit I was charged £15.50. When I asked whether this sum would be deducted from the £189 fee for the crown, I was told that this charge was additional to the £189 fee. When I said that this seemed to be at variance with the information on charging given in the NHS guide "What you need to know about changes to NHS dentistry in England", this was refuted by the dentist who said that the initial visit was classed as 'urgent care' and constituted a complete course of treatment for which he was entitled quite properly to levy a charge of £15.50 even though the filling was described by him as temporary and I had agreed at the time to further procedures, namely an X-ray and a crown.

Do you concur with my view that the way my dentist is charging NHS patients is at odds with the information provided for patients in both the NHS booklet and on your website? Is my dentist correct in his assertion that because I went to see him with a dental problem that arose between routine check-ups, this (what he called "urgent care") attracts a standalone charge of £15.50 and the subsequent necessary and wholly related treatment, in this instance the crowning of the tooth, attracts an additional cost of £189?  

My dentist is adamant that he is administering charges correctly and does not concede that there is any contradiction in the charges he makes to NHS patients and those set out in the NHS guidelines to patients which are paraphrased on your website and which say that the most any patient can be charged for a course of treatment is £189.

Colin Jackson blitzofglitz@ntlworld.com

 


My email address is: colin_macer@yahoo.com

 

FREE? Bus Travel
 

I live in a small village with many pensioners just 5 miles to the north of Cambridge called Bar Hill.

 

At present we enjoy 50% bus fare reduction which means a return to the city centre is £1.25. Under the new 'free' bus fares for pensioners coming into effect April 1st the return fare will be £1.80 a 44% increase.

 

Now Mr Browne may think we have lost our marbles and be beyond logic but my cynicism has never been better.

 

Just before the last General Election  we were promised 'free' bus fares and given £200 'to help with Council Tax'  This year after the General Election the £200 was conspicuous by its absence.

 

Now guess when the 'free' bus fares are going to be 'regularised' across the country 2008 - one year before the next General Election. I would confidently predict more 'help' with council tax in 2006.


Cope group getting behind News bus bid

 

A GROUP working to help older people get out and about has hopped aboard the News On The Buses campaign.

COPE - Cambridge Older People's Enterprise - has written to council chiefs urging them to back efforts to secure free bus travel for all pensioners in Cambridgeshire.

The organisation's treasurer, Rhona Boorman, said: "We have submitted a letter to the leader of Cambridge City Council, and copied it to all the city councillors, our MP, the executive councillor responsible for buses on South Cambridgeshire District Council, and the deputy leader of the county council, John Reynolds.

"The city council is prepared to join the other councils in providing free transport for pensioners and the disabled throughout the county, and our letter asks that the city council leader and all councillors continue to work towards this objective."

The letter also suggests businesses in the city might support the campaign.

It says: "We feel local businesses might contribute towards the cost, as they would benefit from the extra trade generated by thousands of pensioners free to come to Cambridge for shopping and leisure activities.

"Every resident of Cambridge would also benefit from a reduction in pollution resulting from the greater use of public transport.

"The National Pensioners' Convention has evidence that in Wales, where free transport already exists, the whole community has benefited from better public transport and also the bus companies have seen profits rise and jobs created for local people."


FREE? Bus Travel

I read with interest the article about Cambridge pensioners being worse off with their new concessionary travel scheme. Exactly the same situation has occurred with the new improved Nottingham City pensioners concessionary travel scheme.

 

Prior to the new improved City card pensioner asses being issued in April we paid £7.50 for a yearly pass giving free travel within the city extended up to Hucknall in the North and Ruddington in the south, but passes could not be used at peak hours morning and evening.  We could buy Day Rover tickets with Stagecoach at half price and travel to Doncaster, Sheffield, Meadowhall, Worksop Etc.

We could also buy half price rover tickets on The Sherwood Forester buses. With our new passes we do not pay for our passes and can now travel during the evening peak times but have had the Stagecoach half price tickets withdrawn and also The Sherwood Forester half price day tickets withdrawn.

 

I wrote to the council about it but was told that we were being given more than legislation called for.  Just half a mile up the road from us in the county, pensioners can now travel free throughout Nottinghamshire and also into adjoining counties, (South Yorks, Derbyshire, Lincolnshire, and Leicestershire) providing there is a through fare they can also get half price travel on the local rail network.   

 

I think that all pensioners should be treated the same and that what is supposed to be happening in two years time should be introduced immediately. Dennis Fickling, Nottingham


With the advent of the new bus passes in April 2008 we shall lose the "right" to travel before 9.30am and after 11pm.
 
Living as we do in a village, this means we shall no longer be able to spend a day of reasonable length with our children and grandchildren, and still be in our own home that night. Unless we pay of course.
 
The reason given (apart from money that is) is that we shall clutter up the buses. Well, the double-decker bus we take to get to the railway station never has more than a dozen passengers on it.
 
We should not arrive at the railway station until 10.30, then a train journey of at least 1 hour, then another short onward bus journey (free, hooray!)
 
So far we have accomplished this journey easily, so we are extremely disappointed that our entitlement is being reduced.
 
The government blames the local council, and they blame the government.
 
What do other Seniors think?
 
Margaret Astill

LETTERS

Ken Savage the General Secretary of the
Greater London Pensioners Association

Join the GLPA - We can make the change!

When you collect your retirement state pension next, as you wait for your hospital appointment, treatment or surgery - if you are one of the 1.5 million on the council waiting list for a home - spare a thought for the board of executives and major share holders of Centrica, parent company of British Gas, whose predicted profit of £1.53 billion for 2005 pales into the realms of corporate poverty when compared to oil giant British Petroleums record sum of £11.4 billion and the corporate record breaking Royal Dutch Shell which turned in profits of £12.93 Billion.  

This profit accumulating obscenity continues apace it appears, with the blessing of Mr Blair and Mr Gordon Browns New Labour government.  

While for the millions in this country the hardship continues as they find it increasingly hard to barely exist on Europes lowest basic retirement pension and many of whom are struggling to pay fuel bills on miserable means tested benefits. e are threatened with the announcement of a further huge increase in the price we have to pay for gas, the government has said that the winter fuel allowance is to be frozen for the next few years.  

Any caring government worthy of the support of the nations pensioners would slap an immediate windfall tax on these excessive profits and regulate the amount that these profiteering gas and electricity companies charge.  Last year more than 30,000 senior citizens of this country died from cold related illness - let us measure these deaths of the older folk in relation to Centricas announced 83 per cent increase in their operating profit! It is a bloody national crime that must be fully exposed and brought to an end.

The deteriorating environment is of little or no concern to the boardroom tycoon, they are not unduly concerned about what is likely to happen in 10 years time; their boardroom discussions are carried out to make sure that they get their big bonus and stock options next year, not in 10 years time.

 Events move so fast today that to predict social and human affairs is hardly possible.  The movement of events will develop and go one way or the other according to the will and organised movement of the people, in todays uncertain developments both National and World Wide there are numerous possibilities for change.  One thing is certain, the tasks for us are greater, the issues are many and the movement of the people will intensify. World wide the threat to peace and the social welfare and security for all people must be of serious concern to us all and the political uncertainty of millions of people make the task for change today more difficult.

The organised pensioners movement has been actively engaged in struggle to defend our social welfare gains for more than 30 years. Many have fallen out of the struggle, disillusioned by the lack of progress. We have to be realistic and understand that you do not give up each and every time that you fail to achieve your immediate objective; the gains you seek involve long, hard and sometimes frustrating struggles against social injustice.   

To give up is a guarantee that the situation for pensioners will by reason of no resistance get progressively worse. From early learning, the mass of the people are conditioned by the daily presentation of news from the media; to be passive, follow obediently and accept the line and direction of government. They then become the victims of this daily propaganda; understanding campaigns and events of the past proves a great educator. Getting people interested in a specific issue is not all that difficult, thats the first step to building the organised movement, the greater the movement the greater me power for change, thats the way to stop the ongoing private infiltration of our NHS and thats me way to achieve full rights for women in society.  

So what shall we do? There are no easy answers, there never has been an easy answer to overcoming social injustice  imposed  by  government  for generations.  If you genuinely want to do something, to make changes, then you have to be committed and dedicated to the cause, day in and day out. Educate, agitate and organise others, thats the only way forward to rouse consciousness and understanding, there is no other way. Take the first step and join with us in the pensioners organised movement. You can become a member simply by sending in the slip on the back of this Newsletter.  

You may not yet be a pensioner, but you will be. dont leave it to others to campaign on your behalf for a decent pension, health and community care, Organised unity has, can, and will defeat injustice in this wealth divided society. 

Ken Savage


 

WESTON-SUPER-MARE SENIOR CITIZENS FORUM
 

Tel:  01934 812889
Email:  arlington@bleadonhill.fsnet.co.u
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10 October 2005

Dear Editor,

WAGE WAR ON WASTE?WWW?

Councillor Roes recent comments in the press regarding council staff paying for car parking were interesting because more and more parking spaces at Carlton Street and Locking Road car parks are being taken over by council employees for free which results in less income being received from the paying council tax payers.  

In 2005/06 the relevant department budgeted that it would receive an extra £100,000 from car parking increases.  However, they forgot their statutory obligation to publish these increases until May and were therefore unable to implement them until June, by which time most pensioners managed to purchase their annual parking ticket for £37 instead of the outrageous increase to £125 which the council had budgeted for. 

With the Councils rapidly increasing staff numbers, which is of no direct benefit to the public, it can be of no surprise that staff costs over the past three years have increased by £21million and that figure does not include pension costs.  There has been no improvement in front line services, in fact we now hear that they are again considering closing Poppyfields (an estimated saving of £200,000).  Yet they are setting up a NEW team of seven staff to promote sustainable travel, to tell us to get on the buses and, if you dont cycle to work, we now have an officer to tell us that we should.  Who authorises these jobs?  Apparently Councillors are not aware of them.  It really does seem that the Council has different priorities to the ones we need.

Another interesting item is the process of selling off all our Council housing stock (book value £375million) for £61/2million.  If this is the case, why are they intent on retaining a Housing Department of 51 staff and an Executive Council member who manages the Council housing portfolio? 

The Council boasts that it operates 750 services.  How many of these are essential to the taxpayer and have an impact on our lives?  How many are non-essential and are just there to provide a mountain of paperwork which has no benefit or relevance to the council tax payers yet contributes to staffing costs and an ever increasing bill?  These, and many other examples of war on waste, will be investigated and highlighted by the Senior Citizens Forum over the months running up to the Budget.

We know the council tax system is unfair and wasteful.  We know the system is bureaucratically top heavy.  We know it is indifferent to the needs of the people it is supposed to serve.  But, most of all, we know that we can no longer sustain ever increasing council tax payments which are driving more and more people into poverty and despair.

Yours sincerely,

Ken Lacey MBE, Chairman

 
30/03/05
MINIMUM STATE PENSION (NON-MEANS TESTED)
 
Jamie Oliver's successful campaign on minimum standard schools meals should demonstrate how to shift Government on any justifiable cause.
 
Whether Gordon Brown remains as Chancellor or becomes Prime Minister remain distinct possibilities, but the Government (of whichever political colour) has got to be shifted away from the means testing route for the basic minimum, since income tax removes excess income from those who possibly receive more than necessary.
 
A body of personalities on radio & TV, and in the press, preaching this gospel, referring to their parents or grandparents, etc. at this time just before an imminent General Election has got to be the way forward.
 
Opportunism it may be, but retired Seniors will never get their justified minimum state pension relying on low profile pressure groups.
 
Regards
Derek L Gregory

Hello john,
I received your message about the recent  budget sting! to oap's, however I wonder if you could verify when you have to be 65 because I live on my own and receive the single person's rebate on the Community Tax and I will be 65 in July of this year.  
I have never claimed any other rebate because I was working part-time until the end of last year. By biggest crib is about having to attempt to claim any pension credit by disclosing all my personal and private incomes.
 
I really do feel and having talked to others in the same situation that once we reach pension age after having worked most of the years since leaving school we should get the rate that the government says that all pensioners should have instead of having to, once again declare all income. It is a most unfair system and I am not surprised that many do not apply because of the intrusion into our private incomes. What is happening to all this unclaimed income! and if their was no requirement to claim then it would do away with all the administration connected with this ridiculous setup.
 
As the situation is I can't see that their is any incentive for younger folk to save and buy into extra pensions when they see that those who did so are not any better off for doing so!!!
 
Yours, Liz

Dear All.

after reading letter after letter about council tax and the limits pensioners have put upon them if they have savings above what ever it is, the next thing will be taking the value of your
home into account ( in a way the government do already ) .
We say we must not be political CRAZY.
We should be political in our own right i.e. a IS IT FAIR / SENIORS
party, with us standing in every council and parliament election going, just standing for fair play for our problems and not just be trod on.
The Grey vote can be a massive mover and its the only way things are going to be changed.
Think if we withdrew our support from all the things we do for nothing the effects would be more than just felt.

Best Regards

Norman Harris
PS. Would like to hear your thoughts.
normanharris@onetel.com

Your Ref FLG/4/2/010
 
Dear Mr Meyler,
 
As spokesman for the HARROW COUNCIL TAX CAMPAIGN (HCTC) which resulted last year in us receiving 25000 signatures against the massive increases in Council Tax since 1997 of 120% I was amazed to read the letter you sent one of our residents a Mr David A Stanley for the following reasons.
 
You state that you are making a good settlement this year well that is no surprise seeing that we are approaching a General Election , you also state that Sir Michael Lyons is investigating but you fail to mention we will not receive the results to after the Election how convenient.
 
You also state that Pensioners are better of but fail to mention that 20% of Pensioners in England are living in poverty and that 18,400 died from the cold last year and these figures were given to me by Help The Aged so how can Gordon Brown says he is worried about poverty World wide when he ignores the poverty in England?
 
And you also fail to mention that Pensioners under 70 does not get the extra £50 or the £100 given last year but this is ludicrous as 65 is the retirement age but you discriminate against any body under 70 why?
 
You also forget to mention that Pensioners have to pay higher Gas, Electric Council Tax and Water Bills so any Pension increases are used straight away so increases must be in line with wages not inflation.
 
Also  if a Pensioner get Pension Credit why are they not entitled to a Council Tax reduction without filling out more forms as you have the information from the Pension Credit Form?
 
So after speaking to our members their is no way the Pensioners are better of unlike your MPs who have a guaranteed Pension for five years whilst every body else does not live but just exists.
 
As it is the Pensioners who come out to vote in an Election and as most of our members are Pensioners it will be very interesting to hear your views  especially how the rebanding is going to effect us when it  comes in force as the 25000 HCTC members have seen what has happened in Wales and they are very worried.
 
On another point our residents want the GLA to reduce our London Precept as we cannot afford to pay this on fixed incomes and we are not interested in the Olympic games either as Harrow will not get any benefit from it.
 
I look forward to your reply.
 
Stanley Sheinwald
Spokesman
HCTC   
0208 421 1281

Hi Everyone
My name is Sithy Hedges and I have a 71 year old wonderful mother who lives in Luton. On June 21st 2003 we held an event call Young At Heart for the elderly which was mostly attended by those who lived in the council flats around my mum's area.

It was a musical event with many old time entertainers, raffle and light refreshment. It was so successful simply to see the pleasure in everyone's faces. It was completely free and most of the food and raffle prizes were contributions by local businesses. The entertainers were free except for a couple who only wanted travel expenses. The acts were were well rehearsed with lots of variety and wonderful costumes and included all ages from children to the retired.

The event was to acknowledge the contribution that the elderly had made to family, community and country. It was just a day of fun for all as many of the pensioners really believe that they are forgotten and it would be great if everyone was made aware how rich the contribution that they make to us.

Many wanted to know if I would do this again.
Well I am committed to make this an annual event. However, I am proposing to make this an event in many places of the UK as possible.  An event called Young at heart, on the same day, at the same time under the same banner, all over the UK. I waould like to meet prospective volunteers who are willing to operate in their area, working independantly but within certain sets of criteria to ensure that it is recognisable as the same event.

It would involve getting sponsors, entertainers, volunteers etc. and the media.
I would very much appreciate your view on my proposal and what action can be taken to ensure a wonderful Young At Heart Day in June 2004.
Looking forward to your response
Sithy

Good Morning from Cape town. Just writing to thank you for the July Newsletter. Being so far away from home its good to get what news we can. Regards. Carol Ratcliff
Mr S. Sheinwald
12 Ridgeway Court
1 The Avenue
Hatch End
Middlesex
HA5 4UT.

Tel: 0208 421 1138

As a pensioner how am I expected to pay a rise of 21.3% in Council Tax as my single state pension is so low and as our rise in pension is linked to inflation my increase is nothing compared to the proposed rise.

Is it not time that all pensioners in England said enough is enough and with 11 million pensioners votes at stake this Government would have to listen after all the MPs gave themselves a hefty 40 % pay rise with a shorter working week and longer holidays and also voted themselves a protected pension package and the whole deal is unfair to every pensioner in the Country.

The UK is unique in the inequalities to pensioners in this Country for example 25% of pensioners live below the poverty line of 60% of median household income. This is a miserable achievement for this Government from 27% in 1997.

The UK is very mean to pensioners when compared to other well of countries.
And when you take into account that many pensioners just live on the basic state pension which has declined in proportion of average earnings, and is set to further to dwindle to 7% by 2050, and how can this Government justify an increase of just
25p increase in your pension when you reach 80 years of age?

And I am sure that any pensioners who have savings are having their capital eroded by the low interest rates so this Government and our MPs must now do everything possible and start listening to the voters after all the last government lost the election because they refused to listen to the public and unless this Government helps the pensioners we should send a clear message that the Councillors and the MPs should not count on our vote in the local or national elections.

What this Government fails to realise is that it is not the young ones who take the time to vote but it is the pensioners who are mostly seen at the polling booths in Local and national elections.

So I ask all pensioners to write to your MPs and tell them that unless they start fighting for the pensioners to live a decent life without worry and with dignity they should not count on any future votes and then they will realise they had better start to listen to the poor pensioners.